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More Wisdom of
Ramadahn by Ursula Roberts
CHAPTER FOUR
The Master Jesus
Where
is Jesus?
The
Master Jesus, as you understand Him, is immersed in the great love
and light of the Christ Spirit, that Spirit which overshadowed and
enfolded Him during His earthly ministry. After the time of his
death He chose to retain the semblance of a body which is known as
the form of the Master Jesus. He also chose to be very closely
linked to the great source of love, known as the Christ centre or
the Christ influence, where all is gentleness, all is tenderness and
love, for this is that power which became infused into His being and
which is still being infused into those who seek to follow Him in
sincerity and in truth.
So I would say it is right that you
shall learn to see these two beautiful influences - as separate and
yet as blended. As a man and a woman in the earthly life will be
husband and wife and yet they are blended by love so that they
become as one person, even so is the Master Jesus and the great
Christ Spirit. Even as the mother and her babe are separate one from
the other and yet they are blended because they are one in love, the
infant is enfolded in the love of the mother and the mother feels
love because she has the beauty of the infant. Even so is the
similarity between the being of the Master Jesus and the enfolding
of the great Christ Spirit of love.
The Master Jesus dwells in the
region of the Christ. Within this Christ region there is that which
I would describe as a palpitant heart of glorious colour, rose-pink
radiating in colours of beautiful healing and warmth unto all who
may receive the blessing that is there. From time to time the Master
retreats into this heart that He may be renewed in the spirit of
tenderness, that He may be renewed in the spirit of love, and
absorbing it unto Himself may come forth once more in a lovely
ministry of love unto the children of the earth, and unto those who
pray unto Him in sincere love and devotion for aid and the spiritual
power which they need.
It is true to say the Master Jesus
is very close to your earthly world. He is very aware of the needs
of those who suffer. He is conscious of the prayer which is made in
sincere love and faith from the hearts of His children, and in that
meaning He is often able to bring to the needy and the sufferer the
encouraging touch of His presence, the vision of His face, the
enfoldment of His power, the bringing through of His love in
healing.
What
is your impression of Jesus?
This
is a difficult question to answer, because I have to translate into
symbols which are understandable to you and also to me in spirit.
But I would say that here in the regions of the spirit, from
time to time I see this Being passing like a flash of brilliant
light, and as this Being moves, so is the atmosphere imprinted, as
it were, with a myriad of little sparkling lights. It is difficult
to describe this to you, but perhaps it could be like when I have
been with the medium as she gazed across a body of water and the
light danced on the surface so that there were myriads of sparkling
lights. As the spirit of your Master passes, all the air is
imprinted with a myriad of sparkling lights which could be termed
the impression of His love, or His thoughts, or His blessings, which
He imparts to all who come within the circumference of His
movements. So I would say to you. Jesus is the Spirit of light, the
embodiment of light which is how you should visualise Him, instead
of trying to fit Him into the embodiment of any living being whom
you have seen - because whatever embodiment you may see will still
be only a crystalised version of that which is indeed pure light.
Sometimes, as I see the Spirit pass in this radiant beauty, there
will gather behind Him groups of beautiful spirit children. And
sometimes, as He comes closer to the earthly atmosphere, the animals
within the great open planes of joy will feel His passing, will
turn, and I will see all the creatures galloping joyously to follow
in the aura of the Master who passes in this fashion, because the
imprint is one of love, the impression one of glorious light. This
is the manner in which I see the movement of your Master, going from
plane to plane, from spirit to spirit, always engaged upon His
missions of mercy.
We
are given to understand that one day Jesus will return.
I
would say to you, beloved one, the Master Jesus has already returned
to your world, and has in many degrees manifested Himself to many
people. Therefore, the thought that He has to come back again into a
mortal body is not necessarily the true understanding of the
spiritual truth. In his ethereal soul body the Master Jesus returns
again and again to those who have some special need of His blessing,
and has been seen bringing His blessing throughout the many years of
your earth's history. I would also say that in His spiritual form He
remains very close to your mortal world. The Christ spirit, the
spirit of love which ensouled the Master Jesus, does indeed return
in the shape of greater ensoulments, for these ensoulments, or
overshadowings, are a manifestation of the love aspect of the great
Master Creator. So throughout your years of earth's history, you
have from time to time teachers who appear and who become great
lights in your earthly world, because they are ensouled by the
Christly Spirit.
I
have been reading about early Christianity and it seems that while
Jesus was on earth there were no writings or notes made of His
sayings until a long time after His death.
That
is not true, for there lived in that land, in the time of Jesus the
Master, many who were scribes or simple priests, who were trained in
the teaching and the writing of their own particular form of
language. These simple priests, within their own synagogues, did
indeed keep a record of His words, because the truth became apparent
to their understanding. It is also true that the Master Jesus lived
in a city in which many Roman soldiers and citizens and traders came
from all parts of the world, and not all of these were ignorant men
and women.
I think that the records that were
kept have been lost under the many changes which have come to pass
within your world, but of the books which are now in existence, many
have been compiled from more ancient records, to which the first
writers had access. Furthermore, I would say it is good for you to
remember that these followers of the Master Jesus were good mediums,
as were also their followers. Therefore, when it became known
that a book or scrolls of teachings were to be inscribed, there drew
near unto them sometimes the spirit of the Master Jesus Himself,
sometimes the spirit of Peter, sometimes the spirit of John, who
would overlook the work of the scribes, inspiring their thoughts or
controlling their hands that the work might be well done.
Was
it true that Jesus brought Lazarus back to life?
The
Master Jesus brought to the earthly world an understanding of life
beyond the grave, when He brought back from the tomb the man who was
“sleeping” or said to be dead. He was trying to demonstrate this for
the understanding of people, but the whole history has not been
given to earth's people because He was trying to say that “the
spirit of this man is away from his body - when I call the spirit
back to the body, then he will rise, as it were, from the dead”,
demonstrating that the spirit and the body have a separate
existence, whereas previously it was thought that when the body died
the spirit died with it.
Do not hold the idea that the Master
Jesus walked alone with His beautiful powers, but remember that
always at his elbow there were one, two or three of His companions,
in the knowledge that ‘where two or three gathered together’ there
is the flowing interchange of spiritual energy from which all great
and beautiful manifestations come into being. It is true that He
brought certain things into manifestation, which have been known
through your history as miracles, but understanding the powers
of mediumship, you will see that they were not ‘miracles’ but
mediumistic manifestations.
It
is recorded that Jesus in His earthly life at times forgave certain
people He met. For instance, the man on the cross next to Him was
told that he would be in heaven with Jesus. In view of such
forgiveness, how does the law of retribution work?
The forgiveness of the Master Jesus
to the man on the cross near to Him was given because that man had
not extended toward Him any special anger or hurt, also, his
punishment was in accordance with the law of the earthly people, not
with any consideration as to why the man did steal . . . In the view
of spirit and in the view of the Master Jesus, there would be
consideration of the circumstances which pressed that man to commit
that act. If a man steals the possessions of another because his
child is dying of hunger, although it is the law of the land that he
should be punished, it is not in the law of love that he should be
punished - because what he had undertaken was for the love of his
child. That is the difference between the laws of the spirit and the
laws of the earth.
It would be good if, in your mortal
world, this same understanding could be brought to the minds of men
and women. I would say that, as your world is moving on into this
newer time of its growth, there has been a gradual change in the
vision of men and women, who no longer cut off the hand or the head
of a person who has offended the law of the land. There is now a
consideration by other men and women as to the degree of guilt, and
the punishment is decided not by one man but by a group of men and
women who will say: “These were the circumstances, therefore this
man/woman is not necessarily needing such a dire punishment”.
This, we would say, is the growth of
a greater justice in the laws of your mortal world.
Is
the statement attributed to the Master Jesus: “'1 and my Father are
one” correct, because that statement has been used to substantiate
the claim that the Master Jesus and God are one and the same.
I
think that there is not sufficient understanding in your earth as to
the true meaning of this. It is not to my knowledge that the Master
Jesus said that He and God were one. He said that “I and my father
are one”. It is true that during the time of His earthly ministry
the Master Jesus was very strongly and clearly overshadowed by the
spirit who was indeed his father, and through whom a greater and
more advanced power of light and love directed rays of beauty into
the earth, and who was also the medium for forces of a very much
higher degree of advancement.
Do
you mean Joseph?
No,
not Joseph, for Joseph was only the appointed parent of the child.
He was begotten by another man who lived only for a brief period in
the earthly life, who was translated to the spirit that he might
continue his fatherhood-ministry from the spirit existence, but
Joseph was the guardian in the earthly sense.
You
once said that during Christmas you moved to the regions of light to
meet the Master Jesus; can you speak further on this please?
We
open ourselves during the Christmas season, because there is this
release of love and light from the great heart of the Christ Centre,
which flows as light and love throughout the spheres unto all who
may receive it. I would describe it to you as similar to a great
ladder, on which there are spirits in the high sphere linking to
those in the next, linking to those in the next, linking to those in
the next, until we come to the near earth plane of friends and
family spirits who are linking to earth's dwellers, and from the
highest the power is passed down, down and down, being distilled,
until it can be received by the dwellers on earth.
It
is good to be open at this time?
This
is true, and it is for this reason that your priests in the earthly
plane set aside a time, a mystic time, which they call the Christmas
season, in which all may be receptive to that great inflow of light
and of love. But all who have understanding, and all who have the
desire for good, if they do but enter into a time of silence and of
prayer around this season, then they channel into earth some of this
beautiful blessing.
Has
Jesus had more than one earthly life?
It
would seem to me that people in your earthly world have too many
imaginings about the being of the Master Jesus. It is sufficient for
them to know that He still lives as a spirit and often draws close
to earth to aid them; it is not essential that you should know how
many lives or incarnations He had. It would seem to me that earth's
dwellers are too filled with curiosity about the past, instead of
taking hold upon the great opportunities of the present and
realising that their gift of incarnation in this present time is a
great treasure to them; therefore, always looking to the past is not
making the best use of their present time. I do not hear them
saying, “How will I have an incarnation in the future?” Each day in
your present incarnation is a treasure which has been given to you
from the great treasure chest of eternity. You cannot regain what
you have lived through this day -it is gone - it is past, and
therefore the right way in which to live in your spiritual
understanding is to fill each instant, each day, each hour, with
that which is most noble and pure and creative.
Could
the Master Jesus have come direct from the Divine source and not
through reincarnations?
It
is not to my knowledge to say that it was so, or that it was not so.
All I am allowed to say is that He stands in His own beauty as His
own particular revealer of the wisdom of the Master Love Aspect,
which you know as the Christ. But I would say, just as
equally, there have been other Masters and other Revealers. There
was the Master Krishna who has left His influence in the mortal
world, and we would not say what were His previous incarnations,
because it is more important that the Master Krishna stands in His
own revelation of joy and movement for the peoples who love Him; or
the Master Buddha, who also in His own turn became a Revealer and
revealed a way which others follow, and it is better that He too
stands in His own light as His own revealer, instead of it being
said that He was the reincarnation of this one, that one, or
another, throughout the long-forgotten centuries of earth's history.
In
spiritualism I have never heard the Virgin Mary mentioned. Was she
the mother of Jesus?
Truly,
beloved one, for Jesus was born of a woman into the mortal life, and
therefore that Mother spirit still continues within the regions of
light, wherein the infant souls and the mother-like spirits are to
be found. Into this plane of the children this one whom you call the
Mother of Jesus sheds her special love and compassion unto the
children of the spirit. Also, from time to time, if there is some
special need in the earthly life, she can project an image of
herself, which may sometimes be perceived by earth dwellers and
translated into this figure of the Holy Mother. So there is no harm
if you turn your prayer or your thought unto this Mother spirit,
when you need a special blessing for an infant, or child, or even
for yourself.
In
the Roman Catholic churches there are a lot of statues of saints and
of the Virgin Mary. Is it wrong for people to pray to them?
I
would not say it is wrong, for in times gone by in earth's history
statues represented to the people gods whom they felt they had to
placate. In your Christian churches these statues are meant to
concentrate the thought or the prayer upon the individual who is
represented by that particular figure - in the same manner as you
may have within your homes a photograph of someone who has been dear
to you. From time to time you may look at the photograph and send
through it a thought, or a blessing, or love, or a request, to the
spirit of the one represented in the photograph. As we look into the
lives of the people on the mortal plane, we see that some healers
look at a photograph of the healer known as ‘Harry Edwards’, rather
as the pray-er will look at a statue.
If
Jesus was a yogi was He used as an instrument by the Great Spirit in
the solar system?
This
is true, but in the time in which He dwelt the word ‘yogi’ had not
been coined. But there were those people known as the ‘Essenes’ who
lived in a very similar fashion to those whom you call the
“yogi” or the “yogini”. Their way of life was simplicity, attunement
with nature, understanding of the universal laws, living in a
regularity and a rhythm, so that the body was brought to the peak of
its perfection. During His time with them Jesus gained what you will
call the powers of the yogi, and what you call the planetary spirit
we would call the ‘Christ Spirit’, because this is the name by which
It has become familiar to the people of your English land.
Could
you explain the relationship between Jesus having imprinted the Holy
Land with His radiation, and the continuation of the fighting in
that land?
You
must realise that there is a continuous alteration taking place in
your earthly planet, whereby gross material matter is being
transformed by spiritual power; as it is being spiritualised so it
becomes, as it were, disturbed. Often that spiritual
power stirs within the consciousness of men and women, not the
spiritual response, but the reaction of the hidden inner nature,
which comes out in hatred, destructiveness or cruelty, because in
this transmutation, if it is to be complete, then the baser elements
must be brought to the surface and changed into the spiritual.
It
is recorded that Jesus made a blind man see by taking earth, making
it wet and rubbing it across the eyes. Could this be possible?
Yes,
because there are certain healing elements in the soil which are as
yet undiscovered by mankind, and he has forgotten the ancient
science of healing relating to rocks, soil, sand, crystals - all
which belongs to the body of the earth.
Why
did the Master Jesus have to be crucified?
He
did not have to be crucified. This is a thought that has
crystallised into the consciousness of the earthly people. Is it not
true that He prayed that He might not go through this experience?
Also, spirit powers tried to intervene on His behalf by causing the
Governor's wife to dream that this man should not be put to death?
Therefore, I would say to you that what occurred was this great
clashing between two forces. Had He turned back and not gone to
Jerusalem, then He might have continued His love ministry for a very
much longer period of time. But we are not able to give this
teaching to the people of the mortal world because so many of them
cling to the thought that He had to die in this fashion.
There is another truth, which is
that because He died in His youthfulness, instead of in His aged
years, His ethereal or soul body had a certain vitality within it
which made it possible for the spirit of Jesus (as distinct from the
ensouling Christ) to remain close to the earthly world. Because that
was so, He has been enabled to meet many who died in sorrow and fear
and who have testified that the spirit of the Master met them at the
time of their dying. It is a fact that when a body becomes aged its
vibrations become lighter and lighter, and after death it is not so
easy for the spirit to retain a close contact with the aura of the
mortal world. But with those who die through execution, accident, or
tragedy, the etheric body retains a certain heaviness, being charged
with the vibrations of the mortal environment, and so those spirits
can remain close to the earthly environment. So the soul of the
Master Jesus was able to come and go easily to appear unto those who
loved Him. Now, because of His wisdom and His love He still
retains some control over that etheric or soul body and is
able to remain close to the mortal world.
Was
Jesus of Jewish origin, because when He was crucified the cross bore
the inscription that He was the King of the Jews; also, was Jesus’
mother a virgin, as claimed by some of the scriptures?
Jesus
was born of the people of that nation and His blood was indeed of
the Jewish race. Regarding your second question, this, too, is one
of the legends that persons have created about Him. But as we look
into the ancient records (Akashic), we see that the mother
conceived and bore Him by natural methods.
Was
Jesus ever married, or acquainted with somebody in that special way?
Those who reach a high peak of
spiritual training, either as a Yogi, or a Master or an Essene,
transmute the basic sexual energies of the body into a higher
spiritual aspect where creativeness becomes expressed as spiritual
power, and therefore, as He had reached this state, He did not need
to enter into sexual intercourse, as other men might have done.
Is
it true that the gospels came from the ancient Sanskrit writings and
were translated into other languages?
To
my knowledge the Biblical narratives were written by Jewish
historians, and I do not think that they came from the ancient
Sanskrit.
.
. . there have been countless persecutions in the past carried out
in the name of Christ . . .
These
persecutions of which you speak were due to the errors which arose
in the Christian Church, in particular the teaching that Jesus was
the only Son of God. This is a misinterpretation, but I would also
say that the word ‘Christ’ or ‘Christos’ is really a symbolic word
meaning ‘One who is anointed’, therefore, the linkage of the word
‘Jesus’ with ‘Christos’ was brought about in the earlier years of
the Christian Church so that the people of that time could see
through the person ‘Jesus’ into the greater love power of the
Universal God as the loving aspect.
Is
the Eucharist, or Holy Communion, of great spiritual value?
The
bread and wine that was blessed and given by Jesus to His followers
as a symbol was not necessarily intended to continue throughout the
ages. It was a very close and intimate meal which was shared
by Him with those who immediately knew and loved Him. But it was
continued by His followers because, being natural mediums, they were
often open to the influence of the spirit of Jesus; therefore, as
they touched the bread with their hands, they imparted to it some
spiritual influence, and as they held the goblet so a spiritual
influence would be imparted to the water, or wine. This has been
continued into your world today, but there is no change made
in the bread or in the wine unless the priest who blesses it has a
true sensitiveness of mediumship, by means of which he or she is
able to catch the influence of the spirit and impart it to the
elements which are blessed. Therefore in some cases this service of
communion becomes a very blessed link with high spiritual
influences, but at other times it is a meaningless ritual.
Does
the Shroud of Turin give a true indication of the face of the Master
Jesus?
It
is not to my knowledge, because these are details that relate not so
much to the Master as a spirit, but to happenings or impressions
which have been left in the mortal world, but I would say that it is
possible that this imprintation could have been made, because
with the high spiritual force which was working through the Master
Jesus, anything that He touched or used would become impregnated by
His influence.
Can
you tell us mare about Jesus’ training?
To
my knowledge He became part of an Essene colony in which those who
were able to undergo the discipline lived very pure lives as
vegetarians, with simplicity of thought, unity of purpose and a
certain training by means of which the inner mediumistic powers of
the soul would be strengthened by the discipline and the protected
life which they led. So He was in the care of the colony, or group,
of the Essenes until He was ready to come forth into the world to
teach the people about the higher spiritual forces, the revelations
of the spirit, which became known as the Godhead. When He was ready
to begin this, there came the overshadowing of the spiritual force
which has become known as the Christ Force. It was this spirit
Teacher, or overshadowing influence, Who spoke saying “This is my
beloved son in whom I am well pleased”. It was at that time that the
close linkage between the overshadowing spirit and the prepared
vessel became possible. It would be good if those in your earthly
world who are seeking to be mediums, or revealers, could follow in a
similar fashion the disciplines of the past by undertaking
pure living, quietude of thought and meditation; not necessarily to
be totally solitary but to be one of a group of persons with similar
intention, with the guidance of a more developed soul who has a
greater knowledge of the powers of mediumship, to help each one in
their evolvement.
But it would seem that in your
earthly world today there is a seeking after the powers of
mediumship, without the medium being purified sufficiently so that
high and evolved spirits may be able to make contact. Because this
is so, there is this slow development of a mediumship which
functions through mental or telepathic contact with the prepared
mediums. So I would say that all who are seeking to have a closer
contact with the world of spirit, should learn to purify their
thoughts and not allow the mind to become saturated with the
impurities of the earthly world, such as are broadcast through your
television and other forms of machines, but to try and keep the
higher mentality in a state of peace, purity and tranquility, which
will result in a stronger evolvement of this mental mediumship.
In this way we are hoping that
humankind will slowly evolve into a closer co-operation with the
regions of spirit, and the influence of One such as the Master Jesus
may come in streams of thought, inspiration, words of wisdom, which
may move like a purifying stream through the consciousness of your
earthly world.
We
are now verging on the Aquarian Age - can we look for a new Master
for this Age?
The
infiltration of spiritual light and truth will not be in one great
concentrated light but in light which is split into a myriad
fragments, and therefore the spiritual revelations will come, not
through one, but through many, many states of consciousness.
Jesus
represented the Christ principle and showed us how to live our
lives. Are you saying that He is the last Master to come to this
planet and that in the future that principle will be diffused into
many aspects?
That
is true - the principle is spread through many teachers but the
newer revelation (or as you would term it the newer ‘Master’) will
not come as one individual but as a gradual revelation through the
consciousness of many people. This is what I mean by the breaking of
the spiritual light into many fragments.
Are
there any other planets interested in knowledge of the Master Jesus?
Not
so, for the influence of the Master Jesus and of the great Christ
Spirit is really an ensoulment of this your earthly planet, designed
to help in the evolution of all the forms of life. Other planets and
other stars have their own guardians, their own special evolutions.
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